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Post by heap241 on Jun 28, 2013 17:13:26 GMT -5
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Post by K3LLI on Jun 28, 2013 17:53:42 GMT -5
I have the Jot Pro--like it very much. Sorry I've not trued any of these others. When you do make a decision, please let us know how it works for you.
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Post by wilso on Jun 28, 2013 18:46:11 GMT -5
My 5 cents worth...
If you need precision go with either of the clear plastic tipped ones. Otherwise go with the Bamboo offering. They work just fine and have a good reputation. Good luck with your choosing.
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Post by kingrum on Jun 28, 2013 18:57:18 GMT -5
I have only used the Bamboo stylus, which works great for me. I was using the soft nibs but they tear easily. If you do decide to get one, the firm nibs are definitely the way to go.
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Post by heap241 on Jun 28, 2013 19:37:18 GMT -5
I have the Jot Pro--like it very much. Sorry I've not trued any of these others. When you do make a decision, please let us know how it works for you. I looked at that, and as cool as it seems, it's way out of my price range. Thank you again for all the suggestions and help everyone, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2013 7:36:20 GMT -5
About the tearing of soft nibs. I found out this primarily happens if you push the nib. Learn to only pull a nib, like you would an ink brush, with ink on paper. Also, try to put as little vertical force on the nib as possible, as it deforms the material beyond the point where it was intended for, and it will develop micro-fractures in the material, which eventually cause failure and the tip to part from the stylus where the cracks come together.
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Post by deedee2277 on Jun 29, 2013 7:51:56 GMT -5
I have only used the Bamboo stylus , I'm on my 2nd nib since Christmas and I use it every day, so economical. I use the soft tip, but may try the hard tip next time as it takes practice to judge the exact placing of the nib on fine work with a soft nib. I agree with the previous member, be gentle with the nib. I buy replacements from Amazon.
Do let us know your final choice.
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Post by heap241 on Jun 29, 2013 14:23:12 GMT -5
Will do, I'm waiting for a little more input before making a final decision though.
Right now I'm using a cheap 5 dollar iHome brand one I got at biglots. It's worked since march which isn't very long.
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Post by MeanGeri on Jun 29, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5
I have the Jot Pro--like it very much. Sorry I've not trued any of these others. When you do make a decision, please let us know how it works for you. I looked at that, and as cool as it seems, it's way out of my price range. Thank you again for all the suggestions and help everyone, I don't know where you live (I'm in CA.), but I went to an electronics store named Fry's and bought the Jot Pro and was very pleasantly surprised to find it on sale for about $17.00. I saw no signage noting that it was on sale and had to talk myself into paying the nearly $40.00 price. I don't know if this sale is still going, but if it is I recommend checking it out. Also, if you don't have a Fry's around maybe you can order it online and have it shipped. I realize this price is still on your high end, but I love this stylus and the fact that it comes with a cap to protect the tip when not in use. I think the tip can be replaced but haven't seen replacement tips in the store yet. I still use my cheap rubber tipped stylus I got from Walgreen's for stuff that doesn't require detail work, it came with 8 replacement tips and only cost about $8.00. When thinking about the cost, don't just think about the money. When I thought I was paying near $40 for the Jot I had to remind myself that I draw on my IPad all the time, this is a hobby, I don't pay for any of my art apps, and $20-40 really isn't that much money when you consider these things. Think about all the hours of use it will get in comparison to spending $10 to go to a theater to watch a movie that will only last 2 hours. |
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Post by heap241 on Jul 4, 2013 3:32:18 GMT -5
Okay.. So I took all your advice, reread the stylus thread. Did a lot of research and decided I'll get the jot pro. Now I can't afford something like that right now so I'll head to big lots and get another 5 dollar one to last me a few months until I can. I just got a promotion at work so it should only be a month or two before I can get it. In the mean time, I'll just stick with the crappy one and post back here when I can personally review the jot pro. See if it really is what everyone makes it out to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 4:28:10 GMT -5
Okay.. So I took all your advice, reread the stylus thread. Did a lot of research and decided I'll get the jot pro. Now I can't afford something like that right now so I'll head to big lots and get another 5 dollar one to last me a few months until I can. I just got a promotion at work so it should only be a month or two before I can get it. In the mean time, I'll just stick with the crappy one and post back here when I can personally review the jot pro. See if it really is what everyone makes it out to be. Personally, I think the Jot Pro is best for lettering (writing in general), less suited for drawing (especially long strokes). I always get intermitted breaks in my straight lines with the Jot Pro, which I don't get with my finger (great utensil for drawing on the iPad, BTW, if it just didn't leave so much residue in the form of skin grease) or the Bamboo stylus. I'm sure it's because I'm holding the Jot Pro wrong ( clue in this YouTube video of Steve Jobs, addressing the "Antenna-gate" issue)  My take is that you can learn to deal with less precision, by being preemptive. With that I mean that you learn to accept the quirks of drawing with a big stick and not force it to be something it is not. The touch sensitive layer has such a low resolution (remember, it's optimized for sensing objects the size of human fingertips) that one can't expect an iPad stylus to be a precision instrument, like a mouse or a pen stylus on a Wacom digitizer, by any stretch of the imagination. It's more like drawing with big crayons than drawing with a pencil or ballpoint pen, even if the digital mark it leaves behind suggests there is pinpoint accuracy. The supposed accuracy of drawing with an iPad stylus is an illusion, held by artists who want the iPad to be a Wacom tablet (read: Cintiq) replacement and maintained by shrewd manufacturers who want to earn a buck on a premium device, by overcharging on their (basically) sticks with a half rubber ball glued on it. Off his soap box he steps, humbly, yet proudly. |
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Post by wilso on Jul 4, 2013 6:12:18 GMT -5
Stepping up and onto the soap box... The iPad does not track a fingertip it tracks a part of the fingertip. I'm right handed and use my index finger. The point of "contact" picked up by the iPad is that part under the top corner of my fingernail obviously on the pad of the finger That's my sweet spot and other's in touching the screen differently to me would have their own sweet spot... And it is a spot. I love my Jot Pro. The accuracy I can get with it is amazing. Fine work is so much easier. However, it is super easy to use for blocking out - even the whole screen. Where it falls short of being top dog is when it develops a "stutter" over time. I thought I was up for a new tip when it first occurred but I tried out the aluminum foil trick (covered elsewhere in this forum) which worked a treat for a short while. I then tried the conductive thermal paste (also covered in the same thread) which was far more efficient and effective. Popping the tip off, applying the paste and popping it back on takes only a few moments, is not technical (I'm proof) and the paste is cheap. The tip has a metallic spot in the inside center of the plastic tip. The ball at the tip of the pen rolls over this spot and wears it from the inside. The paste acts as a conductive lubricant between the ball and the spot providing constant lubrication, less wear and better conductivity. The soap box is now vacant... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 8:00:29 GMT -5
Wilso, don't misunderstand me, I appreciate your affection for the Jot Pro. However, in my view picking an iPad stylus is very personal. If the store where you want to buy your stylus has a liberal return policy (not satisfied, money back guarantee), I would certainly buy there if you're on a budget, even if that store isn't the cheapest around. Alas, trying a stylus out in a physical store alone isn't enough, since you need at least a few weeks of daily use to get used to a particular stylus, gradually understanding through use how to best use it.
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Post by heap241 on Jul 4, 2013 13:23:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the input guys. Ideally it would be nice to try it out first before buying it. I'm making my decision however based in the way I draw on paper, on a tablet and on here. On paper, if my pencil isn't sharpened to a perfect sharp point then it's not good enough and I'll keep sharpening it until I get that. (I go through a lot of pencils pretty fast.) so I can't imagine the jot pro being that much different. Also you can get replacement ball tips and disks for the jot pro which is what makes me more comfortable about getting it when I can afford it.
I tried drawing only with my finger for months when I first got DQ, but my fingers were rubbed raw and I work at a place that I'm constantly using my fingers and hands for everything I do so it started causing a problem for me there and I had to get a stylus. Even when I got a thin clothe and put it under my finger so it wouldn't get rubbed as bad, my wristes starting getting really bad carple tunnel from having to hover my hand while I draw with my finger.
These are my reasonings for wanting a better stylus. The way I see it I could get a cheaper quality one that won't last as long or get replacement parts or get the jot pro which seams to be the best on the market for the same price as other better known brands that still don't work as well.
Now I know of the bamboo stylus and that would have been my next choice, but I don't zoom in when I draw so as it is I have a hard time seeing where I draw. I end up tapping that little lagged undo button a lot and having to wait while it does its work.
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Post by kercal on Jul 7, 2013 10:24:36 GMT -5
A stylus should be as personal to the artist as a pair of shoes is to all of us. I do kind of like the Jot Pro but tend to not use it in quiet environments (clickedy clack - it's very noisey) and I found that mine died after a few months of use. Of the list you've got at the top of the page: First one - no, haven't used but looks like it wouldn't last the distance. Second (Dagi), yes. Lovely stylus. Third: very nice - depends what tip you like. I do like the fabric ones and use this: www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP62B-NT62B-Dual-Purpose/dp/B0064REJ3C/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1373210478&sr=8-16&keywords=new+trent or the Stylus Socks from Ivo Beckers on Etsy (which are my favourite in the fabric side). The New Trent ain't bad though and it's nice to have a pen to hand  Fourth: the Pogo Sketch Pro - like it LOADS but it's VERY fragile. The tip lasts OK but not forever and you would have to replace. BUt it feels great in the hand, like a glass dip pen. FIfth: Personally - really don't like the Wacom. The tip drags on the screen. I'm not into any soft rubber tip styli really. Personally I'd go with the New Trent? Best all round if it's still something you're working your way into and can't text more out. |
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Post by heap241 on Jul 7, 2013 12:01:47 GMT -5
A stylus should be as personal to the artist as a pair of shoes is to all of us. I do kind of like the Jot Pro but tend to not use it in quiet environments (clickedy clack - it's very noisey) and I found that mine died after a few months of use. Of the list you've got at the top of the page: First one - no, haven't used but looks like it wouldn't last the distance. Second (Dagi), yes. Lovely stylus. Third: very nice - depends what tip you like. I do like the fabric ones and use this: www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP62B-NT62B-Dual-Purpose/dp/B0064REJ3C/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1373210478&sr=8-16&keywords=new+trent or the Stylus Socks from Ivo Beckers on Etsy (which are my favourite in the fabric side). The New Trent ain't bad though and it's nice to have a pen to hand Fourth: the Pogo Sketch Pro - like it LOADS but it's VERY fragile. The tip lasts OK but not forever and you would have to replace. BUt it feels great in the hand, like a glass dip pen. FIfth: Personally - really don't like the Wacom. The tip drags on the screen. I'm not into any soft rubber tip styli really. Personally I'd go with the New Trent? Best all round if it's still something you're working your way into and can't text more out. Thanks for the input, it's very helpful and descriptive! I have used Wacom a lot but I can see what you mean by the dragging. I mean I've only used their tablets not styli so I have a basic idea of the feel of it. I looked a lot into the jot pro and it seems quite nice! I'm actually very seriously considering it although I don't have the money for it at the moment, I will within the next few months. |
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Post by Neferzi on Jul 7, 2013 13:48:24 GMT -5
Woww... I'm learning a lot with all of you. I still draw with my finger, but I'm going to buy one!
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Post by kercal on Jul 8, 2013 3:43:36 GMT -5
Personally, and for the money, I found the Dagi superior to the Jot in terms of connectivity to the screen. The Jot is a beautifully made barrel but the tip didn't last as long as I wanted all things considered (although I did use it a lot). It's not bad, but I wouldn't say that it's worth the more money over the Dagi.
The New Trent is a top purchase for the price though... Very highly recommended while you can get it for that much.
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Post by springmorning on Jul 8, 2013 12:29:04 GMT -5
Every stylus I purchased seemed to fall apart in a couple of weeks  so I finally broke down and ordered the SENSU. One side is like a regular stylus and the other an actual brush. It is lasting but the brush doesn't always contact well for me and the rubber tip side is large. It cost close to $40.00.  Attachments:
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Post by heap241 on Jul 8, 2013 20:18:29 GMT -5
Every stylus I purchased seemed to fall apart in a couple of weeks so I finally broke down and ordered the SENSU. One side is like a regular stylus and the other an actual brush. It is lasting but the brush doesn't always contact well for me and the rubber tip side is large. It cost close to $40.00. Thanks for the suggestions! (Both of you) I actually looked into the Sensu, and its just way too far off my price range, nearing the triple what I wanted to pay mark so unfortunately I just can't afford it. |
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so I finally broke down and ordered the SENSU. One side is like a regular stylus and the other an actual brush. It is lasting but the brush doesn't always contact well for me and the rubber tip side is large. It cost close to $40.00. 
