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Post by kercal on Apr 18, 2013 0:20:05 GMT -5
Hallo! Stylus always for me not using one on iPad was giving me pains that I felt could lead to RSI. Personally I tend to use three: Stylus Sock, Nomad Flex and Pogo Sketch Pro. PSP is the only rubber tip stylus I like - the Wacom and Griffin and the rest leave me cold. kercal.wibsite.com/2012/12/31/buyers-guide-so-youve-boughtbeen-given-a-tablet/ <<more stylus stuff here if you're interested
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Post by daniregald on Apr 18, 2013 1:18:11 GMT -5
I use those free stylus pens that are given out as corporate gifts. They aren't very sturdy, but it's better than buying one from the store for $10 that is of the same quality. Thanks for all the recommendations though! Was happily checking 'em out till I saw the shipping fees. Does anyone know of alternative sites beyond amazon and the seller's store? Something a bit more Asia-friendly?
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Post by kercal on Apr 18, 2013 2:52:27 GMT -5
Dagi are based in Taiwan and a lot of the cheap eBay styli I buy are from HK if that's any help?
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Post by daniregald on Apr 18, 2013 3:34:47 GMT -5
Dagi are based in Taiwan and a lot of the cheap eBay styli I buy are from HK if that's any help? Kercal, you are amazing!! Thank you
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Post by kercal on Apr 18, 2013 10:01:17 GMT -5
Haha no problems. I like Dagi loads best stylus by far for Surface and works very well on iPad too There's another one thats in Korea (check out www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/KR/stylus-for-ipad.html for more details). And I seem to recall a kick starter for a stylus maker in Asia too but can't find it hope the attached link also helps though.
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Post by rayraya on Apr 18, 2013 11:17:11 GMT -5
Kercal,I was this close to getting the Adonit jot pro until I saw your fabulous link/article . Thank you for sharing!! The nomad compose stylus looks very impressive with its dual tips. Though,what do you think of the pressure sensitive styli so far?
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Post by kercal on Apr 18, 2013 12:12:33 GMT -5
Spen is fab, as are the Wacom esqe ones on the Surface Pro and Sony Vaio. the iPad just doesn't h e one I like (although I've not tried the Hex) but given the choice I like the Pogo better than the Jot. Don't buy the jot - theyre a short while off releasing version 3 and v2 just doesn't do the business for me
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Post by daniregald on Apr 18, 2013 15:38:31 GMT -5
Haha no problems. I like Dagi loads best stylus by far for Surface and works very well on iPad too There's another one thats in Korea (check out www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/KR/stylus-for-ipad.html for more details). And I seem to recall a kick starter for a stylus maker in Asia too but can't find it hope the attached link also helps though. Oo, I've managed to find a local seller for Dagi online, free shipping and reduced price. Thanks again! Was it the Flaxus? By Aeglo from Hong Kong. I was looking at it the other day on kickstarter. Wearable 'bracelet' stylus, simply genius though it's flatness doesn't look very practical.
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Post by kercal on Apr 18, 2013 16:35:08 GMT -5
Ahhhh that was it yes. I didnt back it, also thought it looked impractical.
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Post by rubahduk on Apr 18, 2013 20:49:00 GMT -5
I use the pogo and I love it, but honestly I haven't used much else. I used to have a cheap rubbery one, which I didn't like because it wore down really fast, and I find the more spongy cloth like ones are smoother and in my opinion last longer. But I'm not really an expert haha
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Post by uineya on Apr 19, 2013 3:00:19 GMT -5
I use a standar Jot stylus. Not the pro as the rubber grip or dampening tip are not vital issues to me. What i like from it is that i can see where i'm drawing and do it with precision. It has it's quirks, too. Tips could get a bit non-responsive if dirt or grease enters in the joint ball. Adding a simple little drop of soldering paste inside the cap prevents the tip to get jammed and keeps dirt away. Also, the joint pro requires a very clean screen, something hard if you have a 7 years kid with greasemagnetic fingers. Also i use a Hand Glider one finger glove so i can rest the hand on the screen and relax while drawing.
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Post by kercal on Apr 20, 2013 15:00:08 GMT -5
I have two Jots: the standard and the Touch. The touch I found not nearly as responsive I'd have liked and coming at it from having used an Spen for a few weeks it felt a pale competitor. Similarly I found the Jot standard didn't last as long as I'd have liked.
On the see through tip one I much prefer the Dagi (which is also cheaper than the Jot) and just feels so much nicer. You can get an HTC stylus off Amazon for very cheap but the one I bought didn't work on my ipad. No idea why.
If you want that style of stylus but without the see through nature if you search on eBay for fashion stylus you get a jot/Dagi like stylus for a couple of quid. Worth a punt if you're interested in finding out which stylus works best for you as cheaply as possible.
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Post by simao_g on Apr 20, 2013 15:25:54 GMT -5
Hi, I'm curious, as a newbie on digital paint; do you think an Adonit Jot Mini can be okay for my iPad2? actually I am using a self made stylus, wich I stress very much on SQ. Thank you all for any suggestion, S
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Post by kercal on Apr 20, 2013 15:38:38 GMT -5
Personally? I'd not go Jot unless you can test one out to see if it works for you.
Making your own stylus is a cool idea and you can get capacitive foam and fabric fairly cheaply on eBay.
My go to styli are Nomad Flex, Stylus Sock ( from etsy) and Pogo Sketch Pro with New Trent fabric stylus, Dagi, and a couple of others getting a good amount of use too...
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Post by 0128028 on Apr 20, 2013 18:50:33 GMT -5
I have the Adonit Jot and the Wacom bamboo stylus. They have totally different feels. I use them both,plus my finger. Thnx for the zoom tip. That helped a bunch. There are just so many amazing artist. I love the tips I have gotten here. This is great therapy for someone like myself recovering from an illness. I am not an artist, but I hope to get better.
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Post by uineya on Apr 21, 2013 3:29:17 GMT -5
Much of the stylus you need depends on what are you accustomed to use on real life and your drawing style. For most people, a Wacom Bamboo could work pretty well, or any other rubber/foam stylus. If you are of a fine point or more technical kind, a Jot will be your choose. Both works well, and both have positive and negative issues. Rubber/foam are durable and full of choices, some better than others. Are all terrain and maintenance free. But also they cover what you are drawing and fine detailing requires zooming. Anyway, refuse tips with hollow foam, as they will be faulty and crack easy in the future. Choose the ones thar are mor firm against the presure and don't compress a lot. Rubber is better than foam, at least in my opinion.
The Jot is precise as it let you see through the point, and very natural to use as if where a real fine point marker, but you need to care of it. Screen must be clean as the tip is plastic and flat and should skate in the screen smoothly. It will not scratch the screen by itself but sand grains or hard particles under the tip could do, so a protective sheet for the screen is a must (even if you don't use the Jot, you should protect your screen). Having a joint ball inside the tip, there is a mechanical friction that could wear the tip, so eventually you should need to buy replacement ones. But you can extend the life of the tip a lot by puttind a little drop of tharmal conductive paste or soldering paste inside the tip hole. Adonit says that a tip should las around 6 months, but i'm still using some of may points for a year or so whit this.
But most important. The best tool to draw is the one you fell comfortable with. So try as most stylus as you can. Ask your friends to let you use their models and test, test, test.
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Post by rayraya on Apr 21, 2013 11:14:16 GMT -5
Uineya: I ve been thinking about getting a protective sheet now that I m seriously considering getting a stylus but there are so many out there( an overwhelming amount!!). I ve looked into the zagg and skinomi , but read complaints about bubbles forming, how hard it is to put the screens on, issues of yellowing, decrease in the quality of the retina display, lagging of the stylus on the sheet...etc. My head is basically spinning from reading all these reviews. Any suggestions for good and stylus friendly sheets?
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Post by kercal on Apr 21, 2013 13:43:58 GMT -5
Id say it's well worth getting a screen protector. I get mine via eBay - Im not aware that more expensive ones are better.
Bubbles and dust are a pain in the wotsits when it comes to screen protectors. I know some people who say that a fine spray of water and then squeezing out the water with a piece of card is the way that you apply vinyl to professional things but tbh I ain't trying that!!
That said I normally just take up a little corner of the protector and then apply it to the screen as quickly as possible. For the most part it normally works out ok. Never the mirrored screen protectors though. They mess about with a number of styli in my experience.
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Post by leosketchy on Apr 22, 2013 6:20:10 GMT -5
Re: screen protector
Definitely use the water+soap solution as it lets you see bubbles if they form and you can slide the protector to make that perfect fit. Spray them on the tip of the fingers too before handling the sticky side of the screen protector, because the oils from our fingers will stay for the rest of the screen protector's life.
Btw, I was googling about stylus + screen protector smoothness and found out about the GoSmart stylus (http://justgosmart.squarespace.com/stylus/). Anyone have any experience with these? The design is like jot but with Teflon wireframe tip instead of plastic discs. Sounds like there's less friction and even less visual blocking than jots.
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Post by uineya on Apr 22, 2013 8:31:13 GMT -5
Rayraya: I think protective sheet is a must. Is cheaper than replacing a scratched screen. But you must be sure to use a good one. I usually use Belkin ones, as are durable and good quality. Avoid cheap mysterious Chinese brands and similar.
Trick to apply it is to have clean space, clean hands, ultra clean screen and (believe me) a hat or cap in your head. Peel the first protective film with that side down, so dust cant fall over the exposed side, and never turn it up.
Apply it starting on the home button side as reference. and curving the sheet so you go from bottom to top and center to sides. Later you can use a credit card to "push" bubbles away. Push it firmly. Screen is not going to crack and the sheet still has the second protective film so no worry to scratch it.
The worst it can happen is dust particles trapped under the sheet, as they create a circle halo arround it. If so, slightly lift the sheet by the nearest corner and use a post-it piece to collect the duts particle with the adhesive (lift the sheet as just as to let the post-it to slip)
Avoid your head over the screen and breath ultra-slowly when placing the sheet, so you don't create dusty air currents.
Most (good) covers doesn't affect to stylus, but there are some models, the heavy duty ultra hard ones, that are thicker than usual. If you intend to use a Jot or other flat tip stylus avoid that models. In general, cheap film + cheap stylus=crap experience.
Finally, there are matte covers, they reduce the screen glare, a great thing if you work a lot outdoors, but generate more friction and are unpleasant to use with rubber and flat stylus.
Yellowing is due to cheap materials. Good covers does not yellow and if it does, is far beyond the point you need to replace it. With hard intensive use, a well placed sheet could last up to 7 months. A year if used with care. Eventually, all sheets will scratch to a point that need replacement. But hey, a replacement ipad glass is around 150€.
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