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Jul 21, 2013 6:18:54 GMT -5
Post by deedee2277 on Jul 21, 2013 6:18:54 GMT -5
So chosen by algorythym, that explains a great deal.
Maybe we should all create an algorythym of our own for our next quest, based on our past drawings x number of followers x number of stars x how many animals used x how many serious drawings x how many cartoons x any old thing you might like to feed into it.The result without any human thought might be interesting, but may cause an even bigger glitch to the system!
All tongue in cheek, I really like DQ
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Jul 21, 2013 11:36:39 GMT -5
Post by iflowerbed2 on Jul 21, 2013 11:36:39 GMT -5
I noticed that some drawings only had about 20 something stars so that fits the intention of featuring newer artists. I like the idea of seeing both highly skilled or creative drawings as well as those of lesser known artists. It must be hard to set up an algorithm to meet whatever criteria DQ uses (have no idea how that works!). It is true that the more followers someone has, the greater the likelihood they will appear on Explore. I agree with slothdude that perhaps once artists have been featured then they could appear less often. It has been wonderful to discover new artists. One question I have is what is the time frame for the algorithm because I've noticed that if drawings are done later than the end of a day EST, that they don't seem to be included. While people on the east coast of N. America are asleep, the west coast and beyond are still drawing! Just asking.
Although I would be tickled to have one of my drawings up there, I find I'm driven more by furthering my drawing skills, both technically and creatively. I am always amazed at an artist's unique interpretation of a quest or subquest, whether it is an unusual perspective, use of line, or just the concept.
Anyway, it's an interesting discussion. I wish I had more energy to draw more!
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Jul 21, 2013 15:26:01 GMT -5
Post by MeanGeri on Jul 21, 2013 15:26:01 GMT -5
I noticed that some drawings only had about 20 something stars so that fits the intention of featuring newer artists. I like the idea of seeing both highly skilled or creative drawings as well as those of lesser known artists. It must be hard to set up an algorithm to meet whatever criteria DQ uses (have no idea how that works!). It is true that the more followers someone has, the greater the likelihood they will appear on Explore. I agree with slothdude that perhaps once artists have been featured then they could appear less often. It has been wonderful to discover new artists. One question I have is what is the time frame for the algorithm because I've noticed that if drawings are done later than the end of a day EST, that they don't seem to be included. While people on the east coast of N. America are asleep, the west coast and beyond are still drawing! Just asking. Although I would be tickled to have one of my drawings up there, I find I'm driven more by furthering my drawing skills, both technically and creatively. I am always amazed at an artist's unique interpretation of a quest or subquest, whether it is an unusual perspective, use of line, or just the concept. Anyway, it's an interesting discussion. I wish I had more energy to draw more! In the Apple Store where they tell you the new update features it states, "The Explore page features impressive drawings created in the last 24 hours." So the feed is supposed to drop picture after they are 24 hours old, is what I would take from that.
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Jul 22, 2013 9:24:55 GMT -5
Post by kingrum on Jul 22, 2013 9:24:55 GMT -5
Just wondering if you guys are hitting the little refresh button at the top on Explore. I keep hitting it and find a lot of great drawings that way.
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Jul 22, 2013 10:23:47 GMT -5
Post by blackrose2890 on Jul 22, 2013 10:23:47 GMT -5
Just wondering if you guys are hitting the little refresh button at the top on Explore. I keep hitting it and find a lot of great drawings that way. i smash refresh until i see something i like. Useful refresh button :3 mehehehe.
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Explore
Jul 22, 2013 14:12:18 GMT -5
Post by mrchris46 on Jul 22, 2013 14:12:18 GMT -5
so this whole algorythym thing, if we all just made the same drawing... would the whole explore view feature a wall of same drawings? Silly idea but it's Monday.
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Jul 22, 2013 17:27:42 GMT -5
Post by deedee2277 on Jul 22, 2013 17:27:42 GMT -5
What a fantastic idea Mr Chris, we can all draw follow me with a few squiggles and see what happens.
Seriously I'd love to know what criterial they feed in, I can't decipher any pattern at all, just seems to be some sort of random mix, fascinating. Maybe it's like the lottery and the drawings are all fired round and a few lucky ones shoot to the surface There's one for you to draw Mr Chris!
I thought UFO pilots drawing tonight was spot on regarding the activity feed.
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Jul 23, 2013 0:08:27 GMT -5
Post by SwissCakeRolled on Jul 23, 2013 0:08:27 GMT -5
I have plenty of people I follow so I really only look at y'all's drawings now and through explore. I have noticed a few sloppy pics on there but I don't mind...it wouldn't really be fair to only use the best pics because how would you choose? Technical drawings...ones that tell a story...or clever but probably not sketched the best? Just relax and don't stress being featured or not. It's not like there are any great prizes or money. It reminds me of when Facebook started up and everyone was hot for who had the most "friends". In the end it isn't really important...just an Internet ego boost. Chill....quest and Explore! My 2cents
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Jul 23, 2013 2:15:21 GMT -5
Post by mrchris46 on Jul 23, 2013 2:15:21 GMT -5
but internet is serious business, we must not make fun of it. If we do, and get kicked out we might have to go outside and play...
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Jul 23, 2013 14:24:20 GMT -5
Post by LaRosebud on Jul 23, 2013 14:24:20 GMT -5
If I had to play outside I wouldn't be able to use the skills I've gained from all your training master Chris.
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Jul 23, 2013 14:46:16 GMT -5
Post by regcas on Jul 23, 2013 14:46:16 GMT -5
Yay. My drawing was posted on Explore today! The small stuff makes me happy in life now. I can't believe that such a thing made me almost leap with joy. Is that sad or what?!
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Aug 5, 2013 17:06:30 GMT -5
Post by uineya on Aug 5, 2013 17:06:30 GMT -5
I've found great drawings on Explore but, after initial buzz, I'm finding it less useful. Basically I have this issues whit it: Selection size: there are so many artist and so many good drawings that I wonder why the selection is so small. I'm continuously reloading explore to find all the same drawings repeated page after page whit only so few new drawings... After three reload I already watched all selected drawings. You must reload continuously to find more drawings. Schedule of the selection: More or less, explore shows mainly yesterday's quest. Problems is that once explorer makes its selection, is not renewed much more in the next 24 hours. That should not be a big issue, if not where because questers are not living in the same time slot. So when explore makes it's main refresh, there are a lot of questers that still doesn't have even made the former quest. Form example, in Spain new quest appears at 18:00 so by the time explore refresh spaniards has about 6 hours less of showing time than, for example, USA east coast and are starting to think on finish the day and tired to draw. By the time, next day, when they do its drawings most of the explore "slots" have been already occupied. Explore should have a more bigger and continuos refresh. Imagine if you are at 12 hours of difference!!!! I'm with you that not all selected drawings are of sufficient quality, but is an algorithm so is not perfect. But I wonder if there is, or should be, a second algorithm that watch for the current selection performance. I mean, ok, a not so good drawing is added to explorer. If after three hours it hasn't been watched of starred enough, why is still there? Shouldn't be removed to let space for other drawings that hasn't been included on first round? That way explore could be a more live feature. As it is now, is not as useful as could be. I repeat, don't spect it to be perfect, but more "reactive" Anyway, as it is now is much better that not having explore at all. I should give the merit to DQ team.
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Post by deedee2277 on Aug 6, 2013 3:49:49 GMT -5
Totally agree with you. The whole format needs a serious rethink, it's far from perfect in it's present form. All it seems to have done is generate a lot of discussion on DQ. One hopes the powers who be at DQ will take note of the comments and modify the format.
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Aug 6, 2013 22:38:23 GMT -5
Post by blackrose2890 on Aug 6, 2013 22:38:23 GMT -5
here in Philippines, I get new quests at 12:00:00 am. And explore also refreshes at that time. Well, sometimes if I am still awake I get to draw 2 quests (previous quest before 12:00:00am refresh arrives) and the new quest.
Well, if I am still asleep during that time and wake up at 6:00:00am I see mostly is more of the new quest' drawings (since the DQers I follow are mostly from west side of the globe.).
That being said, explore works fine for me. In a sense that if they say the page shows best drawings of 24 hours ago.
I guess in one way or another, explore will benefit some and irk some, that is until they tweak the refresh rate and make it 12-hour or 6-hour to cater to people in different time zones.
--- I have no problem on who gets to land on explore or not. I have seen and followed new artists via explore. But I also understand that sometimes, there are drawings there that I do not understand why it is there. (i do not wish to offend anyone. Not saying a drawing is particularly ugly... But sometimes i see a random chatter's chat message there that just looks so out of place)
I also feel that sometimes, seeing explore is not a good thing. Somehow for people who ended up there it is like a mini star on their work. and I am genuinely happy for them. But I also understand how others may feel (for the other DQers) when they never make it there. subtly, a little competition forms. it may not be as obvious or conscious... but it is there...
That being said, i only open explore rarely and i just use it to follow an artist or what. (but since DQ-to-twitter link has an "open the drawing in the app" function, i don't use explore anymore as I am redirected to the drawing of the person I want to follow.)
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Post by MeanGeri on Aug 7, 2013 1:26:23 GMT -5
Yay. My drawing was posted on Explore today! The small stuff makes me happy in life now. I can't believe that such a thing made me almost leap with joy. Is that sad or what?! No, it's not sad. Getting on Explore feels like a pat on the back for a job well done. I was excited when my Twix bar made it. It made me feel like the time spent trying to make it look right was worth it.
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Post by deedee2277 on Aug 7, 2013 3:02:12 GMT -5
Yes, but I'm sure you would be more meaningful to you if chosen by a person and not an algorythm that no one understands .
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Post by iflowerbed2 on Aug 7, 2013 3:30:25 GMT -5
I've found great drawings on Explore but, after initial buzz, I'm finding it less useful. Basically I have this issues whit it: Selection size: there are so many artist and so many good drawings that I wonder why the selection is so small. I'm continuously reloading explore to find all the same drawings repeated page after page whit only so few new drawings... After three reload I already watched all selected drawings. You must reload continuously to find more drawings. ....... ....... Anyway, as it is now is much better that not having explore at all. I should give the merit to DQ team. I agree that the refreshing of Explore is frustrating. Why doesn't a whole new set of drawings appear instead of repeating some of the previously seen ones? It takes forever to see a new drawing because you must hit refresh many times. You sort of get lulled into thinking that you have seen all the Explore pics, only to discover a new drawing. I would like to see more drawings featured too. All the same, I really like Explore cause I've found some great artists this way. Overall, the quality of the drawings seems to be fairly good, with a few not as interesting or technically adept as others.
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Aug 10, 2013 10:51:12 GMT -5
Post by slbturknett on Aug 10, 2013 10:51:12 GMT -5
Sad face.
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Aug 11, 2013 14:06:46 GMT -5
Post by MeanGeri on Aug 11, 2013 14:06:46 GMT -5
Oh, Explore, my how you have let me down. I will put aside my dismay at the fact that you seemingly snub drawings that are excellent in order to feature subpar ones. I get that you want the children to feel included, blah, blah, blah. But now you have out done yourself. I can no longer trust your judgement, Explore. I checked you out today, in hopes of finding a few hidden gems, and what should I find? Explore, you gave away two valuable spaces to people pleading for followers! I do not like seeing you devalue yourself like this. You can do so much better. You don't need to stoop to that level. There are plenty of wonderful drawings out there that don't shame themselves, and you, by saying, "Follow me and I'll follow you." So cheap, so sad. Explore, please see what I see in you. You have so much potential, there are so many drawings out there that will make you better, lift you up, showcase your value... Please don't degrade yourself by falling for the pandering of these little imps.
With love (and a lot less respect),
MeanGeri
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Aug 11, 2013 18:17:50 GMT -5
Post by regcas on Aug 11, 2013 18:17:50 GMT -5
Mean Geri. You hit the nail on the head and maybe the coffin of Explore! I agree with every well written, thoughtful and sometimes hysterical word you said. You go girl! I am starting to hate ( strong word, I know) Explore. Okay maybe dislike is better. Thanks mean Geri for your great monologue on Explore aka the Bore ; the Chore; the Sore.
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